Category: faramir

l-o-t-r: Friendly reminder that Pippin named …


Friendly reminder that Pippin named his son Faramir

hiistoria: The Lord of the Rings: The Return…


The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King ( 2003), dir. Peter Jackson 





davineclaire: “Boromir was always the soldier….


“Boromir was always the soldier. They were so alike, him and my father. Pround. Stubborn even. But strong.”

elizabeths-banks: middle-earth meme: five scen…


middle-earth meme: five scenes (3/5) ➝ denethor sends faramir to osgiliath

“You wish now that our places had been exchanged… that I had died and Boromir had lived.”
“Yes. I wish that.”

One of my favorite underappreciated LOTR momen…

 In FOTR Pippin can only watch helplessly as Boromir sacrifices his life for him– and when Pippin tries to fight back against the Uruk-Hai, he’s easily dragged away

And then in ROTK, as Pippin struggles with guilt over being the “cause” of Boromir’s death, that scene repeats itself: this time it’s Boromir’s brother who’s dying, and about to be burned alive by Denethor….Pippin tries to stop Denethor, but (like before) is easily dragged away

But this time Pippin digs his heels in the ground and says “NO NO NO THIS IS NOT HAPPENING AGAIN ANOTHER “-MIR” BROTHER IS NOT GOING TO DIE ON MY WATCH” and then this tiny three-foot-tall nerd who’s always been treated like the most useless member of the Fellowship immediately charges headfirst into the thickest and deadliest part of the battle to find Gandalf, shoving past all the courageous warriors who are fleeing in the opposite direction, doesn’t even run from the Immortal Being of Darkness Nazgul that stands in his way, then LITERALLY LEAPS INTO A  FIRE WITHOUT HESITATION just to save Faramir

vanhoytls: lotr meme: ten scenes → [1/10] “t…


lotr memeten scenes

[1/10] “the captain and the white lady

A moment of silence, please.

A moment of silence, please.

I LOVE your blog! Thank you for doing what you…

I LOVE your blog! Thank you for doing what you do! I have a question about Faramir's adaptation: first I felt cheated by it and then saw that in the DVD Philippa Boyens says they made him be attracted by the ring because otherwise, it would seem it ha no power and I kinda get it, but still, how is it that in the book it still works perfectly? Could you verbalize it or explain what is just a feeling for me, please? Thanks in advance! (Sorry for my english, btw, have a great day!)

(Thank you!! And your English is great!)


(for those of you film-only fans) In the book Faramir is pretty chill about Frodo and Sam going to Mordor. He doesn’t hold them captive, orders his men not to hurt Gollum, and helps them on their journey from the very get-go. He’s never tempted to take the Ring. One of the major reasons that was changed in the films was because, as one of the screenwriters said, they needed to show the ring’s power, emphasize how it can tear people apart–

Because here’s what films can’t do but books can: show you Frodo’s internal struggles.The book can give you passages describing his mental agony,  tell you exactly what’s going on in his mind and heart,  spend entire paragraphs describing how much the ring is breaking him down– but the films…?

 Sure you can show Frodo staying awake at night looking at the Ring; you can show Frodo nervous and on edge, freaking out at Sam; you can show him in agony when Nazgul are nearby; you can have scenes where he talks about how heavy the ring has grown and how he feels like he’s losing himself. But you can’t literally film what’s happening inside his mind, they way you can go inside his head in a book

 This is also why Frodo gets a lot more flak in the film-verse for being “weaker”: because so much of his struggle was mental/internal which is WAY EASIER to show in book-language than film-language.

So the screenwriters had this problem where: if Frodo doesn’t talk about/show his internal struggle at all, it seems like the Ring isn’t a burden to him…but if you have him speak his thoughts (literally quoting passages from the book) or show that pain, some people in the audience will find him “whiny”. (AND THOSE PEOPLE CAN FITE ME.)  


So films have to find a way to show everything externally, because they are not books. If the Ring has the power to corrupt people, then we have to see it to believe it

….which brings us back to Faramir. 

In the book, we can have Faramir easily let the hobbits go and still believe the ring is tearing Frodo apart: because A Book is A Book and we can look into Frodo’s thoughts and describe how it’s tearing him apart. But in a film we need to see that “power to tempt and corrupt” in action for it to feel like it exists

 So (there will be a “but”) I agree with Boyens that Faramir’s character had to be changed for the films because film is a different medium and has to show conflict in a different way. (but.) And yes, we need to emphasize the ring’s power by showing it corrupting another character– because unlike the book we can’t actually see Frodo’s mental state, and the ring’s power might feel like an Informed Ability, and Frodo just “over-dramatic” if this other guy we don’t know well easily resists it. (but.) And Frodo/Sam’s subplot needed a new external source of conflict in TTT, and a new climax– since the external conflict/climax of the book TTT was Shelob’s lair, and it was  too soon for that (but.) And a whole host of other things the book could tell but the movie had to show (because it’s a movie): how dire Gondor’s situation has become, how Faramir is under a ton of pressure from his kingdom, where Osgiliath is; etc. And then there’s pacing, which is 100000000000000 times more important in a film than a book. And I think an adaptation should stand on its own, be its own universe, change things, the LOTR films are my most favoritest films ever, BUT.


The fact that Faramir was sensitive, kind, and nonviolent was what made him interesting-– you can’t just take away the reason people liked him, the reason he was such a compelling contrast to Boromir.  The films would have been stronger if they kept those aspects of his personality. How I would change this Faramir plotline in the film is its own post but there were ways of doing this subplot the way they had to do it in the films, without *completely* altering Faramir’s character. There were ways of meeting the book half-way: (Faramir holds the hobbits captive, but is apologetic- ”I don’t want to do this, but it’s the law of my country”; he questions them, but is kind and understanding; he doesn’t let his men hurt Gollum; when he learns the hobbits have the Ring of Power, he wearily explains that “I don’t want to do this, but now that Boromir is dead my entire country is counting on me…and my country needs more than I can give them.” You could bring in that quote from the book where Denethor tells Faramir that being “gentle” in dark times will lead to death for you and for the people you’ve been trusted to protect.  (The films -tried- to do this a little, by implying the reason Faramir is acting so unlike his peaceful self is that he learned his more warrior-like brother died just days ago and is only trying to do What Denethor Wants Him to Do and Boromir Would Have Done). Etc, etc, etc.  

so TL;DR: Books can show internal conflict, movies have to find a way to show all internal conflict externally. Because of that, the films had to change a lot of things. But yeah I still believe there were ways for the screenwriters to do what they had to do without completely altering Faramir’s personality